walked down a stone path near the main temple in Mcleods Ghanj dharmsala and went to this beautiful serene monastary which is full of young people, the silence inside the monastry is so loud that my ears ached.
one great thing about the tibetians i've met is that when i smile they smile back like the sun and for some reason it cheers me up so much.
This young man is about to smile
I would like to add a discussion between my friend Laurent and a chinese Flickr member called jason in belfast here.
Jason in Belfast ( www.flickr.com/photos/93099487@N00/ )says:
Great photo but free Tibet? No. Tibet will always be a part of China. Rmember that.
www.flickr.com/photos/93099487@N00/2343518542/
www.flickr.com/photos/93099487@N00/2342690963/
We have heard some bad news from Tibet China recently and seen some 'reports' on TV, newspaper, websites from the western media. We also see some people shouting 'Free Tibet' even here in Flickr. There is one thing I want to ask these people: how much do you really know about Tibet, about its history and the history of China? What makes you draw the conclusion that Tibet should be freed? And what and who makes sure that Tibet will be better if, only if, it is freed?
If you can't persuade yourself on the questions above, please, spare some time to look at the facts listed below. I'm sure they will give you a new view to Tibet.
Tibet Diary:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pI4SB4GXho
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA6YLpG1pPw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vaQBz2CzsA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZkAWhhiDkc
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ZwsgSOsjo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnPlAoLeAy8
Some other videos:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHOr0Sk7Q3I
www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9QNKB34cJo
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designldg www.flickr.com/photos/designldg/2342196105/ says:
@Jason in Belfast:
I want to answer your comment.
I saw all the links concerning the videos that you mentioned above and I have to say that it is very easy to take pictures from the begining of the 20th century and to compare them to nowadays saying "look at the diferences, see the evolution"...
We could make those pictures say the same from any other country, there is a name for this: propaganda.
In those videos it says and you also say that "Tibet was, is and will always be a part of China":
"In the Tibetan sovereignty debate, the government of the People's Republic of China and the Government of Tibet in Exile disagree over when, or if, Tibet became a part of China, and whether this incorporation into China is legitimate according to international law.
Geographically, UNESCO and Encyclopædia Britannica consider Tibet to be part of Central Asia, while several academic organizations controversially consider it part of South Asia.
Many parts of the region were united in the seventh century by King Songtsän Gampo.
From the early 1600s the Dalai Lamas, commonly known as spiritual leaders of the region, have been heads of a centralised Tibetan administration (at least nominally), and are believed to be the emanations of Avalokiteśvara (Chenrezig, Wylie spyan ras gzigs] in Tibetan), the bodhisattva of compassion.
In 1751, the Manchurian (Qing) government, which ruled China from 1644 to 1912, established the Dalai Lama as both the spiritual leader and political leader of Tibet who lead a government (Kashag) with four Kalöns in it.
Between the 17th century and 1959, the Dalai Lama and his regents were the predominant political power administering religious and administrative authority over large parts of Tibet from the traditional capital Lhasa.
In the battle for supremacy in central Asia between Victorian Britain and Tsarist Russia, a British force under soldier Francis Younghusband eventually invaded Tibet, cut down its warriors with the Maxim gun and occupied Lhasa in 1904.
The invasion led to a peace treaty between Britain and Tibet, a document that some Tibetan historians see as recognition of their remote mountain home as an independent entity.
Imperial China was outraged by the invasion but could do nothing to stop it and waged a diplomatic battle to protect its own claims over Tibet.
In 1949-1950, soon after the establishment of the People's Republic of China, Chairman Mao Zedong ordered the 'liberation' of Tibet by the People's Liberation Army.
Many Tibetan nobles and working people co-operated with the PRC government.
However clashes broke out over land reform and the Buddhist religion.
In 1959, the Dalai Lama fled to India.
The CIA funded a secret guerrilla war until President Richard Nixon decided to make up with Mao in 1969.
Famines, followed by Chinese violence during the cultural revolution, intensified resistance to no avail.
The Dalai Lama himself has long since abandoned calls for independence and now seeks genuine autonomy and respect for Tibetan's human rights.
The move was seen to be unpopular with the Tibetan government in exile."
Before all this Tibet was also a real country where a series of kings ruled from the 7th to the 11th century.
Tibet appeared in an ancient Chinese historical text where it is referred to as fa.
The first incident from recorded Tibetan history which is confirmed externally occurred when King Namri Lontsen sent an ambassador to the Chinese court in the early 7th century.
However general, the history of Tibet begins with the rule of Songtsän Gampo (604–649 CE) who united parts of the Yarlung River Valley and ruled Tibet as a kingdom.
In 640 he married Princess Wencheng, the niece of the powerful Chinese emperor Emperor Taizong of Tang China.
Many wars occured between China and Tibet but in 821/822 CE the two countries signed a peace treaty.
A bilingual account of this treaty including details of the borders between the two countries are inscribed on a stone pillar which stands outside the Jokhang temple in Lhasa.
Tibet continued as a Central Asian empire until the mid-9th century.
Your references tell that "Tibet was a society that practiced brutal punishments and tortures" China stopped it ?...in 1959, in order to stop the insurrections, tens of thousands of Tibetans were killed by the chinese army, it was a crime of Genocide according the Charter of the United Nations.
Today the violent protests in Lhasa against Chinese rule left at as many as 100 people dead.
Live video showed scores of Chinese police searching door to door in a section of Lhasa March 16, 2008 as part of a crackdown following the violent protests.
I could answer to each argument which are in the rest of the propaganda you are mentioning but it would take too many space, I'll just take as an exemple it is wrong to say that "the exiles were supported and funded by the American CIA and India to try to destabilize China", this was an episode a secret guerrilla war involving the CIA only (not India) until President Richard Nixon decided to make up with Mao in 1969.
China is a great country that I deeply respect, however the Chinese government is well known for not respecting Human Rights.
There are too many proves of the unjust exactions, extortions and tortures performed by chinese soldiers to civil tibetans since 1959.
Denying the facts and changing for an appropriate description of the point of view of the Chinese government reminds me another story, the Holocaust revisionism, and this is the reason which makes me stand for Tibet today.
I understand that you love your country, but as you are staying in Belfast where there is no censorship, you should be able to get a complete knowledge of what is happening in Tibet, finding out and accepting the evidence of the truth will also allow you to stay a patriot.
Namaste.
Wednesday, March 19, 2008
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